[Red or Green]

Originally Posted by HTAPAWASOv2.0

It's a really good guide.

I can't think of anything left out (possibly because it's 6am), but you'll be the first to know if I do.

Good work. It was getting a bit difficult flicking through the however-many pages of your other thread :P

EDIT: I would add it to sig but I can't change it -.-

I agree about the flicking thing. I'm thinking about doing my experimentation/findings on that one since it's messy and that once I distill any new information, I'll add it here.

[--DREAM--]

Originally Posted by Red or Green

I agree about the flicking thing. I'm thinking about doing my experimentation/findings on that one since it's messy and that once I distill any new information, I'll add it here.

good guide rep

[ChP]

heh.. i'm way ahead of your guide... but it is very good all the main stuff are said ..
+rep

btw.. how fast will i farm with 45 pct drags and 100pct rains

[svrngr53]

congrats on finishing the guide very nice started my farming only problem is my warrior is lvling to fast. lol her weapons proficiency can keep up so i have to tg her in the middle of lvls or she will be to far ahead . but i like the guide

[War!]

Originally Posted by ChP

heh.. i'm way ahead of your guide... but it is very good all the main stuff are said ..
+rep

btw.. how fast will i farm with 45 pct drags and 100pct rains

Post your gear.

[Red or Green]

Originally Posted by ChP

heh.. i'm way ahead of your guide... but it is very good all the main stuff are said ..
+rep

btw.. how fast will i farm with 45 pct drags and 100pct rains

This really depends on your equips, offense, defense, and how good you are at keeping sm chained and where you level. So any answer I give would only be a guess. Just remember that even a small change in any of these things can mean a big cut in time. *Channeling HTA with last sentence in this paragraph*

For example.

By just improving my sm strategies and adding one plus to my armor and neckie I can now level at birdmen at lvl 67. I managed to get 3 characters from 67 to 80 in under 4 hours. The previous time I did this, it took me 7 hours and I did it to only 2 characters.

So I did the exact same thing as previous except I leveled one additional character and did it in almost half the time.

[Petra]

ok, i had a huge problem getting an image up here, this has to be one of the most restrictive and annoying forums ever. i couldn't upload b/c it kept saying database error so i just used imageshack... hope it is viewable...

anyways, i made a chart of all the major 2handers and relationship w/ their skills...

http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?i...oncalcsti7.jpg

from chart, spear does most average dmg, pwnage for TG... poleaxe comes in 2nd for TG. wand obviously pwnage for lvlling, but closely followed by glaive. i say glaive over poleaxe for lvlling b/c of much higher min. atk therefore less socs for SDGs, more room for SRGs... and glaive after spear possibly better for PKing if u're worried about min. dmg vs. overkilling someone w/ a poleaxe and possibly hitting extremely low...

er... i guess that's my 2 cents...

and here's my 3rd cent on warrior farming... (for u hardcore dime bagging misers like me...)

i think it is best to get full eli +3/4 warrior gear except for the wand, atk ring, and boots. boots u can go normal if u want to save up on mets, but i would +3 for the 3 extra potency. also, super for the 2soc wand and atk ring.

reason for this is... if you have full 1 soc warrior gear, and your goal is to reach ~40% drags, the super wand and atk ring will give you a bonus of ~10.6% from elite to super. since this is a mod of the base damage of wand+ring, in order to reach an equivalent combined total of ~40% drags w/ eli wand+ring, you will need only ~26.5% in drags which is easily covered in 2 socs of drags... whereas ~40% drags requires a min. of 3 socs, 2 SDGs and 1 RDG.

so to simplify that math jargon... by using super wand/ring you will free yourself up to 1 additional soc which you can pop in a SRG, thereby speeding up your entire warrior farming process by 25% (plvlling, self lvlling, tg, etc). sure you have to spend a few more mets to pay for the 2 super items, but if you use uni/ref/norm soc +3 boots, you will save also on mets. and 25% faster warrior farming means you can farm 4 warriors at the same amount of time it takes you to farm 3 warriors(give or take a little w/ vps, tokens, cw, mb, etc...) i think the RB of an additional warrior should be able to pay for any losses in mets for upping super wand+ring.

now, gear, starting from nub to imho the optimal cost effective and versitile warrior farming setup (probably subject to tweaking, i'm sure i made a mistake somewhere...)

here is the setup to start...

as RoG stated, start w/ full eli +3 w/ eli wand 2soc, excluding boots. good choice, pop in 2RDGs into the wand and get lvlling... you will need those 2RDG dmg boost in the beginning.

next... aim for a Super 2soc wand and super soc atk ring. these should be your primary concerns in spending your money. basically the idea is more power, faster lvlling (to a degree).

once you have reached this setup..

full eli +3 warrior gear
boots (norm is sufficient for now)
super +3 2RDG wand
super +3 2RDG atk ring

this is a good time to start looking into socs and +4 ur wand/ring since that will probably be the cheapest way to gain few more atk power. your goal should be this, most likely to take awhile...

eli +4 SRG helm
eli +4 SDG neckie
sup +5 SDG atk ring
sup +5 SRG/SRG wand (yes, remove those RDGs for SRGs)
eli +4 SRG warr armor
norm/ref/uni +3/4 SRG boots

now, why this crazy setup?

ok, norm/ref/uni boots to save on mets as mentioned earlier but reasonable +'s and uni is good to get those extra potency pts and increase dodge to reduce dura loss. eli boots is just too much mets imho...

why only 2 SDGs? b/c if u can reach super +5 SDG atk ring (lvl 116) and super +5 SRG/SRG wand (lvl 115)... then your damage once skill goes off is... 6294-9229 (aka 62,940-92,290 w/ SM, minos only have 60460 HP and 100 defense) this means, you ONLY NEED 30% drags to 1 hit EVERY TIME w/ snow using this setup. this also gives you room for 5 SRGs, 125% xp bonus, wow!

as explained earlier, eli for all other warr gear b/c cheaper on mets than supers, but supers for wand and ring opens up a soc for faster lvlling.

now, why on earth put SDGs in necky and ring? b/c you can share those socs w/ an archer, tro, war>wat u made or whatever other main you wish you pk with. you want to give that main drag power, not rains, unless of course you want to. but why not just put 2 SDGs in the wand? b/c wand's focus is for lvlling, NOT PKing... i'd rather own a super 2 SDG spear on the side to lvl with in TG and/or to pk with. The rest SRG gear should remain to be used for ur warrior until you are lucky enough to 2soc and bless all of them. of course this requires u to be lvl 116 to use 115 wand and 116 ring... if u plan on going into lab 4 extra early, say 110, then i would suggest putting 2 SDGs in helm or warr armor. but without it, you should be able to 1-2 hit the minos w/ snow and the 50% rains will make up for some of the slowing down in SMs of lab 4 till u reach 116...

my suggestion is lab as early as you can, i didn't do the math on that. i don't think it's worth it to run full supers so you can lab even earlier, but i think birdmen and hawkings are pretty damn good to level at up to 97 or earlier if you +5 all ur gear and possibly bring some pots. heck, if u go small female w/ eli 2soc shield w/ super 2 soc club, u could probably goto laby from 70 to 110 easily. then just use wand from 110 to 120.

there is really no need to build ur warrior gear beyond this setup expect possibly putting on more +'s for extra potency and def for earlier entry to birdmen lvlling and lab as mentioned in several previous posts. if you have too many SDGs you just end up overkilling monsters and not getting that extra SRG xp bonus that could make your farming much faster, especially in the later lvls in lab. if you ever get those 2socs and blessing done, you should be rich enough to re-soc all 14 socs w/ SDGs. personally i'd rather just fill them up with 2 more SDGs, one each in necky and ring, then SRGs on the rest to speed up the warrior farming even more. basically making it your permanent fast money maker. Then using the SDGs generated to get yourself whatever you want.

i hope this kinda of helps... if not... erm, sorry for this "wall of text" as RoG would call it...

[shadowtaker]

Do you all think I'm able to farm effectively with the following gear?

elite +4 2RRG wand
elite +3 atk ring
elite +3 SDG boot
uniq +2 RDG necklace
elite +2 helm
elite +2 RDG armour

[ingen]

Just a little insight for those starting to warrior farm, i'll share my experience so far.

Gear:
Elite+3 Helm (Elite+4 -5 @ 97)
Elite+3 RDG Neck
Elite+3 SDG Ring
Elite+3 2x RDG Wand
Elite+3 Armor
Norm+2 RRG Boots

Since none of my defensive equipment is +4/5 its kind of a drag leveling at DC (Warrs were plvl'd to 60). Going from Hillmonsters -> Rock has not been fun, its impossible to chain (highest i managed was 59 kills), but my batch of 5 has almost reached 70, which i then hope is enough for BI or at the very least Bladeghosts. My suggestion is, for those with the bare min. of +3, level normally as per the guide linked by RoG, and if you SM in DC, bring atleast 3 newb warrs to Roar as recommended by HTA.

Am looking foward to BI though =P. Just wanted to give a little tip for those about to start.

[TitusDotel]

Originally Posted by shadowtaker

Do you all think I'm able to farm effectively with the following gear?

elite +4 2RRG wand
elite +3 atk ring
elite +3 SDG boot
uniq +2 RDG necklace
elite +2 helm
elite +2 RDG armour

Originally Posted by ingen

Just a little insight for those starting to warrior farm, i'll share my experience so far.

Gear:
Elite+3 Helm (Elite+4 -5 @ 97)
Elite+3 RDG Neck
Elite+3 SDG Ring
Elite+3 2x RDG Wand
Elite+3 Armor
Norm+2 RRG Boots

Am looking foward to BI though =P. Just wanted to give a little tip for those about to start.

shadowtaker, just go back to the first post of this thread, and read RoG's tips, yes your gear is adequate for starting warrior farming.

ingen, good work, and at 70, possibly even 67 you could begin at BI, though you will need to bring lots of pots, you will likely 2 hit Birdmen in SM, which is fine, just keep your pots on hotkeys as they will do good dmg to you, but you can prevail, and Birdmen is the first mob you will be able to chain SM at.

GL both of you.

[SHz]

My wars are currently all at lvl 43 , been plvling them at snakemen, but they stopped getting good exp so i decided i'll lvl them from there.
Finding it quite hard to chain sm at elf apes, mobs are grouped together enough and i jump in the opposite direction of the mobs >________>
My Equips:
Elite +4 helmet
Elite necky (ref +1 soc necky as well .. i dont think there's much difference between the two)
Super +2 dex ring
Elite +4 RDG RRG poleaxe
Elite +4 SDG war armour
Norm +1 SRG boots

Are there any suggestions of other places for lvling with better chance of chainning sm?
or maybe i'm just bad at it

[ingen]

Originally Posted by TitusDotel

shadowtaker, just go back to the first post of this thread, and read RoG's tips, yes your gear is adequate for starting warrior farming.

ingen, good work, and at 70, possibly even 67 you could begin at BI, though you will need to bring lots of pots, you will likely 2 hit Birdmen in SM, which is fine, just keep your pots on hotkeys as they will do good dmg to you, but you can prevail, and Birdmen is the first mob you will be able to chain SM at.

GL both of you.

Stuck through it and got my 5 warrs to 70 3 days ago, upgraded my gear and have been busy so haven't had anytime to level them at BI really. However, i MUST share this experience i just had.

It's 1:30 AM here, i was going find a plvl'er for my rb arch @ BI as it is the plvl'in capital on Eagle, saw that there was virtually none (except 1-2 slow moving 120s), saw it as a perfect opportunity to see how great BI really was for myself. Logged on, did something while i waited for XP bar, popped SM and started whacking, i could not believe my eyes... i did not even know what the countdown bar was as it was solid green the ENTIRE time, as per HTA's recommendations i only went up to 70 kills per SM, but dear god was it easy, it made the Hillmonster grudging work well worth it. In the end i ran out of pots as it was my first time i was trigger happy, managed to make it to 450, could have easily been 1k+ with these spawns imo. Unfortunately during peak times there are about 6-7 1/2-hitting archers there, so i don't expect to replicate these results 24/7, but it took 10 minutes for 2 levels... at this rate i'll be moving on to HawKings in no time.

Anyway, sorry for the long paragraph but i just wanted to share how excited i was =P!

Oh and P.S. with all lvl 70 or below gear, 45% drags, i could 1-hit with skill and even just with SM without a problem , could have probably attempted it earlier, but as i take 240s i think it was better to wait for the defensive gear.

[n4kk4k]

some advice needed.

Current Gears:
97 Elite +4 RDG Helm
97 Uni +3 Necky
100 Elite +3 Atk Ring
105 Elite +3 RDG Wand
100 Elite +4 RDG Armour (trading for 110 Elite +4 SDG Armour this weekend)
100 Elite +2 Boot

Gears in queue:
116 Elite +4 Atk Ring
97 sup +3 helm
100 sup +3 armour
120 uni +3 RRG Armour
110 Elite +4 Boot

70 uni RVG RVG wand
110 Elite RVG RVG Wand
115 Elite +4 RDG RDG Wand
115 Sup +3 RDG Wand

My both wars are at 110 now, the xp gain had slow down at lvl 108-110 at Slinger.

1. Is there anything I can do to improve it besides lvl up the current gears.
current plan
a. lvl up the sup +3 helm/armour for lab 4
b. + the elite RVG RVG wand to +3/4. if needed, replace RVG with RDG

2. what gears should i rb with to further improve the farming?
current plan is to rb both elite 2soc wand and the elite +4 atk ring

3. what are the 2 gem should i get? and which gears should i soc them?
current plan is to get SRG on helm and SDG on the elite +4 RDG RDG

Thx in advanced

[~Lord*Zero~]

Is the lab4 boss known as Siren or Howler?

At first I though it was Siren, then when I noticed its name, it was Howler...

[Petra]

Originally Posted by n4kk4k

some advice needed.

Current Gears:
97 Elite +4 RDG Helm
97 Uni +3 Necky
100 Elite +3 Atk Ring
105 Elite +3 RDG Wand
100 Elite +4 RDG Armour (trading for 110 Elite +4 SDG Armour this weekend)
100 Elite +2 Boot

Gears in queue:
116 Elite +4 Atk Ring
97 sup +3 helm
100 sup +3 armour
120 uni +3 RRG Armour
110 Elite +4 Boot

70 uni RVG RVG wand
110 Elite RVG RVG Wand
115 Elite +4 RDG RDG Wand
115 Sup +3 RDG Wand

My both wars are at 110 now, the xp gain had slow down at lvl 108-110 at Slinger.

1. Is there anything I can do to improve it besides lvl up the current gears.
current plan
a. lvl up the sup +3 helm/armour for lab 4
b. + the elite RVG RVG wand to +3/4. if needed, replace RVG with RDG

2. what gears should i rb with to further improve the farming?
current plan is to rb both elite 2soc wand and the elite +4 atk ring

3. what are the 2 gem should i get? and which gears should i soc them?
current plan is to get SRG on helm and SDG on the elite +4 RDG RDG

Thx in advanced

i'd say try to +4 ALL your gear. get as many SDGs as you can and avoid any SRG. the more SDGs you get, the better and more successful you will be at lvling allowing you to goto lab 4 asap. if you can +5 all your gear and get full SDG, you will be able to skip lab 3 and go straight to lab 4.

rb everything you need to farm next batch. then on second warrior i'd rb the best rain gear you have and throw in whatever is left into the remaining slots. you will need the rain gear to help plvl your next batch of warriors for lvl 70. try to sell the other stuff that you don't need. try to keep items you need to bare min. and liquidate the rest.

KEEP:

-best drag gear you have for actual lvling
-best rain gear you have for plvling, do not lvl them up afterwards
-your violet wands

SELL:
- everything else

although some ppl won't recommend super items, i agree with that, except for your wand & ring. those are the only 2 items when super that can boost your attack which i highly recommend. super wand & ring w/ +5's and ful l SDG will allow you to 1 hit bull monsters about 95% of the time at lvl 110 allowing you to skip lab 3. as for the 108-110 slow lvling at slingers. i'd do a calc of your gears atk and def next time you have warrs at 105. check to see if with new set of gears you can go straight to lab 2 at lvl 105.

also, rb for 2 SDGs. you can put them into whatever socs that do not have SDGs. once all your currently available socs are SDGs, you can start selling SDGs to buy additional soc'd gear.

here's what i do...
http://bbs.conqueronline.com/showpos...&postcount=510

Originally Posted by SioKanla

Did you ever read any of Orson Scott Card's Ender series?

yes, i've read them all and the original "Ender's Game" is still by far my favorite book from both series.